I started a new thread over at Codemasters Showdown forum. Here a repost of my first post:
After watching this video:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/first-look-dirt-showdown/726236?I see DIRT will have derby figure 8 racing. Now you got my interest and with no GFWL, I can think about maybe buying this game.
But for us that love the derby racing in GRID, we all know you need 10-12 players for a good derby race. You need at least 4 crashers trying to take out the leaders for a good derby race. In 8 player or less host, that don't leave many players racing to win. Also with more players, more chance of getting a good T-bone at the crossings.
I hope your tracks have at least 2 crossings for some good T-bone action.
Since Flatout 1 in 2005 we have wanted 12 player races and derbys online. I help beta test 12 players online with Flatout 1, but we were unable to get a stable mod.

12 players online with GRID is one the things that made GRID one the best, fun racing games in a decade. Please, Please give us 12 players online with DIRT Showdown if you want this game to be successful.
Also, any chance of getting a Tag or Hunter\Prey mode? I enjoy the Hunter\Prey mode we unlock in Flatout 2, but mode was unstable. Sometimes we never made it back to the lobby. Did not get to try DIRT 3 tag mode since DIRT 3 uses GFWL.
Will the PC version of DIRT Showdown and up coming GRID 2, have a text chat window in the lobby for all to read? I like GRID chat window while you race, but when players are in the lobby, all players need to see chat window when we talk about kicking a hacker\cheater. Will PC version of DIRT Showdown and up coming GRID 2 use the kick vote system use in Flatout 2? Host decide who to kick, then players vote. If there a majority vote, player is kick. Let the host police his\her lobby. The kick vote was broken in GRID.
Will players get to spectate other players after car is wreck? Will players joining lobby get to spectate while they wait for race or derby to finish like in GRID? This was good feature in GRID.
Will there be a "same as host" option? Host pick a car to race or derby with. Usually once players learn what are the best 2 or 3 cars, then none of the other cars are use again.
Will the derby cars become almost indestructible after about 1000 miles, like in GRID?
Like Ausman car, his car has taking a pounding, but is still going. Maybe a little hard to steer thou.


Any chance of having some turn out the lights, night time racing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrjVwTJavbgI guess that enough questions for now.